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Consequences!!!/Blog
When JUDGEMENT DAY come and we have to face our CONSEQUENCES…. who is going to stand back and say” Well Lord he don’t deserve to go to HELL”.. even though he/she did this or that..
WELL STOP SAYING THAT DOWN HERE ON EARTH… YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR CONSEQUENCES…
LISTEN PEOPLE… if we had to CHOSE our own consequence of our wrong doing actions… NO ONE WOULD BE IN JAIL.. NO ONE WOULD DIE, MATTER OF FACT… PEOPLE WOULD BE DOING ANY AND EVERYTHING THEY WANT TO DO.
If you don’t get what I’m saying ON EARTH… TRUST ME ((((LOL LOL HAHAHAHA)))) YOU GON LEARN ON JUDGEMENT DAY….. You ARE NOT in charge of CONSEQUENCES FOR ANYBODY….BETTA BE PRAYING YOURS WONT BE TO HARD.#frfr.
Had a great time with MOM AND DAD/Ramblings (((BLOG))))
Today was good day… my dad took me, Nesha and my momma to lunch at their favorite restaurant. They go all the time, today was my first time. The food was so good….I finally got to see what all the talk was about. After wards we went to Belle Isle to sit at the fountain and to take in the beautiful sun and breeze. I have a tan out of this world… on one side of my body. LOL We sat there for at least 3 hours. The ice cream truck came we sat and at ice cream and had a very good time. Life is about living and enjoying your family and friends. Afterwards we went riding Downtown. Many of the streets were blocked off, because of the Jazz Festival . Parking is $20.00 on up…. yes…. they’re making a killin too.
We had a good time together. My dad use to always get mad at me , but since my mom moved into his building on another floor, he says he’s happy because he gets to be around his family more. He was so mean and it was hard being around him, but for the last few months, its been a pleasure to be around him. I come to the conclusion concerning people that…. they are who they are…. you can either ask God to help you “understand” their ways so that you can best get along with them, or not be bother with that person. I get along with people, because I understand that we’re all different. I respect the differences and I love everyone. Things I’m not feeling about a person… I don’t deal with. I don’t want to argue fuss or fight with anyone… I just want to have nice conversations and that’s it. God knows my heart.
I need to start my walking back up.. OMG. I gained a few pounds and I don’t like that at all. So after the Holiday…. its back on and poppin. I love to walk, so that will be a breeze. Okay.. I’m rambling… I’ll be back tomorrow.
BE BLESSED
My Funny Parents/DIVORCE/LOVE
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This post is from a good friend of mines. If you are lead to help her with donations for a Lawyer.. please do so. Â THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!
Hello all!! I am currently raising funds to pay for what may be potentially two lawyers (one in Georgia and one in Illinois) to fight my abusive ex in court who has decided to sue me for full custody of our daughter and refuses to bring her home to Chicago from her summer visitation with him which puts him in contempt of our current custody agreement. Many of you may already know my story, if you don’t, a link will be provided below to my blog detailing my story. (Please excuse my language in the blog because it was written prior to me turning my life over to Christ.) Since we moved to Chicago, he has summoned me to Georgia on what will now be my 5th time. Since I have a permanent restraining order on him, he has abused the courts to file for modifications to our agreement. I have gone so far as to cut off the child support just so I can have some peace and hoping he will leave me alone, but he has not. He has been successful partly because I still had a victim’s mentality and did not want to rock the boat and partly because I could never afford representation so that I could adequately fight him in court. But no more!!! IF I need the lawyer in Georgia because the Illinois lawyer is not successful in transferring venues, that lawyer would be used to get the change of venue and hold him in contempt of the original agreement as well as hold him in contempt for filing our daughter on his taxes. The Illinois lawyer will be used to start my case here in Illinois, establish my custody case as Illinois as my home and file for modifications as well as close up the many loop holes. I was served by the Sheriff’s department on Saturday, August 16th and I have court Tuesday, September 9th in Georgia. Time is of the essence and school starts in Chicago soon. She is in a selective enrollment school and if she is not in attendance, it is possible she will lose her slot. Funds raised will also be used, if necessary, to fly to Georgia and to bring my 11 year old daughter home. I am a survivor, as you will read in the link below, I have survived so much and I will survive this too and God WILL get the Glory anyhow!!! Thank you for reading and being a blessing!! http://www.misfit4lyfe.blogspot.com/2012/12/lisas-story-part-1.html?m=1
My Personal Testimony Feedback ((should I publish))….. Blog
Hey Family!!!
Recently I share with about 100 people my PERSONAL TESTIMONY that happened in the last 2 years. I DID NOT want to share it because it was so close to my heart and I really didn’t want to “go there”. But I’m glad I did. Wow.. never in a million years did I realize how many people were touched, encouraged and inspired by my story. God had been telling me to write down my story and share it… I just couldn’t. I have several books in me.. so when I read the response …. I was really blown away. I’m thinking about having it published on line.
Here are some of the many responses from my “Building My Faith On God’s Reputation”.
Hey Cree I’m trying to catch up with reading these chapters, I just finished this one and all I can say right now is OMG!!!! this is a POWERFUL life changing story. You are blessing my SOUL!!! and I’m learning a lot about my self through your story. WOW!!! Ok on to the next chapter. LOL
You were born for this. Your sharing will help so many.
love it zz. keep it coming everyday im blessed to start my day reading different blogs but yours do something special. im waiting on the book.
When I initially saw ur post I said dang that’s a lot of reading I have to get things done this morning but as I began to skim thru the beginning I was really drawn in and I ended up on my couch in the same spot until I read every word of ur testimony. Zee u r a very strong woman and I commend u for sharing ur trials and I’m sure there’s more it something I have always wanted to do myself, but until then I will continue to appreciate urs and knowing how good GOD is to all his children who follows him. I love u even more for this Zee keep it going.
it really helps in ways you will never understands especially when you take things so simple for granted.
I love this book…I mean post lol. I’m on to the 6th post. I love your affirmations!!!!
Thank you for including me in this, I am honored. I love you always in life.
Your testimony will certainly help others with the challenges they are facing day to day.
I’m reading the other chapter right now gurl this is funny !!! because I can picture you in my mind and your reaction, but at the same time it’s life changing and what a good TITLE for your book.
Can’t wait to read the next chapter Cree!! WOW!! You know you have a book in the making right???
Alright Cre’ “Multiply Style” Girl you are giving me so much life right now!
I love you twin. Thank you for loving me back!
Clutching my pearls… Mouth wide open… Eyes big as fifty cent pieces… I was on your blog today… I wanted to call you about starting my blog & to ask where have you been blogging “hanging out at” I’m in a terrible place right now and look at God…. You and I together again ON TIME at the right time… As only The Good Lord Will Have It. Mm… Mm… Mm…
((Tight, Tight Hug))
Thank you for including me on your VIP list. I have nothing but love for you honey. Mm mm mm
Wow! Thank u zee. I have a feeling I need to head and learn from what you R about to share. Thank u and I love you for this!!!!!
Thanks for adding me Cree, I know your testimony will bless me and all that you have added to this group, I’m truly looking forward to hearing your testimony, Let God use you Cree. I know I need to hear this. YOU ARE NOT ALONE MY DEAR!
Thanking the Lord for allowing me to be in the number to be Blessed By You. Fasting and Praying i knew the Lord was making room for something i’m ready 👣
Thanks for a portion of your testimony, I will be praying with and for you as you continue to pour our what GOD has asked you to deposit in us.
Thanks cuz, love the title “Building my Faith on God’s Reputation” and love you even more!
Thank you Cree Cree…. ive been praying for God to keep me grounded…. I love you!
Cree virgo’s are strong go getter folks…Its hard to depend on others…..we are normally the depender “the person You can lean on me..”type people”. May God give us the strength we will always need to survive and lean on Him….our heavenly father and always be Thankful/Grateful for close family and friends.Ham mercy….Hallelujah and Amen …we walk by faith and not by sight.
TO ALL MS. WALKER’S FRIENDS: Friendship is nothing to be taken lightly. Cree always listens to “our problems.” She is finally getting her just dues where we get to listen to her. I am so grateful that she is finally able to share some of the things she experienced. I apologize that I didn’t realize Cree was going through so much because I was too busy complaining about my problems. Let her testimony stand.
this reminds me of Paul when GOD took his sight. Before Paul became Paul his name was Saul and he was a legalistic believer. A pharisee or much like it. He was going to kill the spirit filled christian the new believers in Christ and sadly he thought he was doing the work of the lord but he wasn’t. So God took his sight and he couldn’t see for three days. On the third day GOD restored his sight and named him Paul and he is the biggest contributor to the bible to this day. There is a plan and a purpose for all things so be of good cheer. !
Lord I pray u be a Fence all around Lacrease Walker an everyone ready her testimony…. Give Crease strength like no other an fulfill each an Every dream an desire she has… u have always been there for ppl now set back an Let God take care of u …..I’m grateful to call u MY BIG SISTER U HAVE GIVEN AN SHOWN ME SO MUCH AN I BLESSED FOR THAT…..
Lacrease Walker girl I love you…you are my sister and friend…I can call you out the blue and your always anxious to hear what I have to say and you give me the alternative thinking… ( ok so let me ask you this) lol and I love it…thank you for inviting me and thank you for being you…you are one if gods rare gems….Allow him to use you baby…
Powerful sis! I totally understand about never being sick or having an affliction and then boom and staying focused to listen to the voice of the Lord instead of people! Awesome, anxiously awaiting the continuation! Love u, Be Blessed!
I learned the hard way quenching your spirit in a period of lack, depression, desperation, debt, lust, heartache and pain, turns you away from GOD as HE sits patiently saying, I AM the answer, I AM the way, the Truth and The LlFE, I AM who I AM.. Yet, we want it when we want and HE takes us through season(spiritual ones will define/ breakdown for you soon) in the flesh. I always new winter, spring, summer and fall. But spiritually we have seasons. When you are so consumed on what the world is offering, you are blinded to what GOD has offered to our spiritual life that we begin to wither away and die on the inside cause the mind to wonder, make it had to accept HIS, correct, HIS promises, HIS will and HIS way. We begin to try and figure out what He means for us by ourselves. I never stopped serving the people, spreading HIS word, but I was no longer applying it to myself. I did what I was suppose to on the outside but in the inside I had to die. I LOST everything, the man I thought I loved and loved me (not GOD choice but mine), the job I had and desired to keep, the house I brought but stopped keeping it up, the cars I stopped paying for,, my grandmother that I loved more than myself and anyone else, My friend because I became different, my family because I had changed. But GOD, slowly I had a wake up call and I’m still working on it today. Will tell you more as your testimony continue. Because I see the spiritual seasons in your test.
Wow taken aback….you made me tear up….thanks for allowing me to be apart of this.
Lacrease Walker i truly understand where your coming from in that place as we speak only being led by the voice of The Lord and trying to stay i his presence so he can lead and when i called you i was led to do so that being said when you was in your human nature side he the Lord sent someone in the spirit to encourage you and to remind you that He The Lord is Faithful, God Bless you and I Love you looking forward to reading more to God be the Glory.
That PRIDE thing can get in the way every time. Try the Spirit by the Spirit…I understand this is your journey but if it had been me with all that I had been though to get to the place God wanted me to be. When obstacles came increase faith followed , isolation and shutting down would not be an option for me. You very well know God uses others as vessels to give you the desires of your heart according to his will.
On my spiritual journey I’m learning to increase the relationship but it’s also important to TRUST him, no I mean truly trust him and his will. Thanks for sharing were you was thinking then. I’m interested to know if you had to do it all over what would be different? Love Monica
This is so uplifting reading your story. You really should consider putting it in a book. Also, you have that personality that when people meet you, you are liked. That is how I felt when I first met you. I told Tasha that you are a “people person” and that you were very outgoing and you had a beautiful spirit about you. Looking forward to reading the posts.
That is great and I am glad you are thinking about it. I truly feel it would help many people that are facing different challenges in life. Reading your posts just confirms that we may make plans but God’s plans are the best. I thought I would be in Texas by now and God said no, I have something better for you and I am trusting him.
Cree you know GOD uses us all to be so that others can become you have always been a writer i remember you trying to get me to pen pal. lol and put that with the encourager you have always been it really shows how faith works im grateful for you test which you pass and are able to deliver a testimony to allow someone to read and be free and deliver in their storms and testimony enjoying being bless by this.now im waiting on your books.
I wish u would have just put this in a book sis, cause I feel like u teasing me with the page a day. Though I must admit that I am enjoying it. I LOVE to curl up at the corner of the sofa and read!!
Hey Zee, God is so awesome, keep up the good work. I love you.
We have helped each other and i can really relate because when im doing bad or going through something i to keep it to myself, i don’t like to ask people for help even when i need it ,and it’s funny how everybody think im so strong and got it together, but baby i have wet my pillow many nights lol!!! And not to mention me getting down on my knees asking for strength and guidance. its making me tear up just think about it. And dang i forgot to blockRubie Phillips Knott lol
You are successful! Just like Miss Renee Bates said. You came through it, and your spirit is intact. I am going to share one of my testimonies here. I’ve shared it on my FB page, and ppl have gotten a lot from it. I’m a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. At one point, I was going to take my life, but God stepped in and began a healing in me that is still going on. I’m still here!!!! I didn’t take my life, and I believe God let me live so that I could share my story to reach other survivors. Here is the link. It’s never too late to start your life over, even if you think your life is not worth living
You’ve been a blessing by sharing your story. We have spoken but this before many times but I will say it again we were going through very similar situations yet we thought we were the only one going through. For those reading who often wonder why I call Cree twin that is one reason. The other is from the very first time we ever laid eyes on each other we connected. She knew what I was thinking without me saying a word and I knew what she was thinking. This happened on our very first time meeting. Cree reminded me that there are no accidents in life. I know this is long but allow me to explain. I met Cree online on a message board. We were on at the same time viewing the same thread and had just gone to the same concert and sat a couple of rows apart. We didn’t meet at the concert but we met online and stayed in touch and she’s been my twin ever since. We don’t see each other often we don’t talk often but I have no doubt that Cree is a true friend and I can talk to her about anything and I have. I share things with her that I’ve never shared with others without hesitation. She’s just that kind of person. Without a doubt it was God who allowed us to cross paths and become “twins”. I know this is long but I want others to know God is amazing and he works in mysterious ways for sure. Keep watching and waiting on Him. Be blessed everyone.
Girl i remember when u said u hear God’s voice like he was sitting right next to u having a conversation, I’m glad u were obedient and listen to him and prayed when u did. I had a similar story to yours I was on my way to walmart on getting on the freeway which I really don’t like to drive this particular morning I was very sleepy, but I got up got dressed warmed up my car and headed off, It was a light snow the kind u don’t see until u see it got on 94 as soon as I got on I spinned all the way on black ice around facing oncoming traffic, I was so scared I said Lord please turn me the right way so I can get to this job, I swear to u the radio station change itself to Jesus will work it out, I turned the car around without any problems then the other cars came flying pass me I eventually got to that job praising his name shaking and all
It was so nice to read your story. I had a bit of the same issues as you when it came to sharing my testimony but What God has shown me and consistently shows me to this day is that sharing your story isn’t about you. Yea, it’s your story but it helps you as well as others who hear. I don’t like giving my testimony because I don’t want people to judge certain people in my story and I also don’t want people to feel pity for me. I also want people to see how God provides in the ways of this world. Cause some people just get so stuck in that all Christians should be poor mentality but if we are all poor and homeless who will help the homeless. I, like you, feel like a story should end with the Blesses of God so that people will see him how I see him. What I think we often miss is we are looking for the material things to be the blessing when the blessing is really those moments of comfort and security that he offered when we were down and without a clue on how to get back up. You may not be in a place that looks blessed to the outside world but the fact that you are closer and more secure in a relationship with the provider of blesses you have no need to worry because knowing him means those blessings are going to follow after you without you even having to try. Thank God, For you and your words I know he will continue to bless you.
Sooo agree be blessing to others connect more with god know in doing so you may lose many friends but will see your true when more you connect .do according to his plan for your life not men he speak to us all in different way no his voice listen thanks for your story Cree love you a much
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 zz im so blessed by many things you have shared.i relate to some things because i have either been there or are there or maybe going there and it helps to know that someone else can relate.there are 3 kind of ppl in the world and you have describe all of them 1.the one that is going in a storm 2.the one that is in the storm. 3 the one that out of the storm.either way we experience the storm choosing to share your storm and the out come is a choice and you must be confident in where you are in life,i appreciate you for your honestly i remember those events you shared and never knew because you smiled through your pain(reminds me of me)that’s the Virgo in us and it hurts to let ppl know we in need not just of money but everything, You help me to realize things i know it was conformation thanks for sharing and adding me i know it was meant for me to read this.i got up every morning looking for it.lbvs.we have been friends for many years and even when we dont see or talk  Â
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I agree you’re story is a success, you learned, grew, and kept going forward. You gave and still are giving hope, education and more to others. You are always helping others, feeding the homeless, helping young girls or just an inspiration for people to know that they are not alone and there is light at the end of the tunnel. Â
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Your life story have so much to do with having faith in God through the difficult challenges along with the good one! Also it show how you have self doubt and fear at some point but you always held on to the faith in God no matter what you were going through! I am learning from your story that sometimes God has to slow us down to see what he has in stored for us whether we like it or not.
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 I laughed so hard!!! I was at work, Lacrease, and the lady next to me HAD to ask what I was laughing so hard about! Yeah, you were heated  I read all 4 parts today, and I’m so blown away! I can relate to what you went through, too.
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Every living cell in my body wants to move to LA. I went there to try to find a job, and NOTHING came of it. I stayed there about a month, and then came on back home. I figured it just wasn’t the right time.
I got a job here at a doctors’ office, and for the most part, I’m happy here. There is always that nagging about wanting to go back to LA, though. Every time I think about going back, I hear something (God) say don’t leave before the miracle. So I stay. I have no idea what I’m waiting for, but that voice is loud and clear about staying here. I despise Cincinnati, but that voice is unmistakable!
And I don’t know if you knew this or not, but about 9 years ago, I lost everything I owned in an apt fire. At the time of the fire, I thought it was the worst thing that could have ever happened to me. I was wrong. It ended up being a blessing in disguise for me. I disobeyed God before, and I so paid for it! So I am soooo there with you when you’re telling your testimony! So there! I used to think that the fire was just a fire. But I realize since I didn’t obey God, it was really like an eviction! A holy eviction LOL!
You keep listening to Him. You know He’s not going to steer you wrong. I love your relationship with God. It really gives me pause, and makes me stop to listen to Him. When I think about your story, I hear my story as well. Thank you so much for sharing this with us all. You have no idea how many ppl you are going to touch with your story.
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 I am so intrigued by this story…as much as you write I still hate when it ends…can’t wait for part 5..
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yes you two have truly blessed me to beable to just share more and to look deeper within me and rewrite the contents within me instead of just living and letting people read the cover. you know the saying “that you can’t judge a book by its cover” from this day forward i will be writing i was always told to do so . God Bless you Ladies. World Changers
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The Bible talks about God preparing a table in the presence of our enemies. I don’t expect them to say a lot of nice things about me, but they are there. Watch me eat.-Tyler Perry
Crees Rambling…. (((((BLOG)))))
Yesterday was the first day I made a PRIVATE Facebook page sharing my testimony to a selected 100 of when I went moved to Atlanta and back to Detroit. Its a very long Testimony, and I will post some everyday until the end. This should take about 2-3 weeks. Many are being Blessed already. I did NOT want to even write it, but God kept telling me to do it, and for my DISOBEDIENCE… I paid for it. So, it is written! LOL LOL It is done Lord!!!
Just sitting here thinking. Even though I never share my personal private life here…. its funny how I can be in LOVE with one, and REALLY REALLY LIKE another. I just LOVE a take charge man. And I don’t know what is it about me that makes them “get with me”…. like I’m tough or something. Its so funny to me, cause I love a man who talk smack in a loving playful way. Â And let me clear what I mean by that. Not violent, who will curse me out, belittle me or anything like that. I LOVE to laugh and have a good time. I wonder how many others out there feels this same way about loving one man/woman, and like another.
Anyway…….Today has been a very interesting day. I’m just outdone and speechless. But it is what it is… and <CREE> knows how to keep it moving.
Someone close to me is about to go through a bitter divorce. So sad the stories that’s coming out of it. I’m just numb about a few things, but its all good… Sorry for the rambling… plus I’m sleepy too.
Be Blessed
Sisters Only/ Weight Loss Update/ Detroit is Home for Me
Hey,
 Every time I think about being back home in Detroit from Atlanta…. I’m reminded of all the things that I’ve helped out with concerning my family, that I wonder how things would have turned out, had I not been here. I must say, since God said so first…”I am exactly where I’m suppose to be”. I love Atlanta, and I wouldn’t mind having my own apartment there, but for now…. Downtown Detroit is home for me… and after 2 years…. I’m finally okay with that.
 I’ve lost a total of 20 pounds!!! Yes! Walking Mon-Fri has really helped me to come down. The part that makes me happy is that whenever I hang with family and over eat, I know how to get back in the ring and get it off. I know how to eat, and I pay attention to my body. Its a challenge to me to reach a goal. I still have a long ways to go, but its challenging getting there…which is not so bad.
I’ve been hanging with my Sisters this past week. I love them so much. I want to put together a gathering for Sisters Only. But if you’re an only child and have a good friend who you call a Sister, that would be just fine to attend. I found out that when you get along well with the Siblings you grew up in the home with everyday , that you’re likely to get along with other women easily. For me…. I will never ever engage into a disagreement or anything physically with another woman… my thought is this…. if I don’t fight or fall out with THE SISTERS I LIVED IN THE HOUSE WITH EVERYDAY AS KIDS… why would I give negative energy and time into women outside of them? To me…. that’s equivalent to SUICIDE. Now that’s my thought on it. I’m so happy that it doesn’t have to be that way, because I have great friendships, and I LOVE all of my friends dearly.
In putting together “Sisters Only”… I want to teach women that its okay to have debates and arguments with your sisters because of difference of opinion. I’ve learned that my sisters and I have debates a lot because we ARE DIFFERENT. Â But our LOVE Â for each other is so strong, that debates and opinions HAS NEVER OUTWEIGHED that day and time of being together. Its not important to carry the difference of opinion into the next day, or month. For us, its not about being “right”.. its only about being able to express how we each feel. Lets be real…. we all feel like we’re right. After we debated it out and it dies down… we laugh, talk about who was the loudest, who had the best point and then its over. I think Sisters Only will help sisters to understand each other better. That is okay… that you’re not on the same page all the time.
I just had to post the above photo. I remember my momma giving us that eye. LOL We use to be scared… we knew if we didn’t stop what we were doing bad, it was on and poppin. Hehehehe
Be Blessed
Two is better than one…….(((((Blog)))))
Hey yall,
Thursday as I was pulling into my parking lot in my building, all of a sudden out the blue, in my right eye I saw a cloudy vision of what looked like eye lashes in my eye. Whenever I would turn my eye from right to left, I could see “something”… my heart started beating so fast. I was able to see out of the eye, but I could see a thin coat of “hair” which looked to be red, and “swishy”. I jumped out of the car walking to my apartment so fast. First thing I did was pull my lashes off. After doing that, as I was looking in the mirror… I saw 2 small blood clots in my eye. Anxiety kicked in and I was going crazy in my mind. I was so nervous. I didn’t know what was going on. I must have walked my hallway in my apartment 40 times, praying. I wanted to go through emergency, but I had to see if it would “go away” the next day.
After calming down, and realizing that it wasn’t going away, I went to bed and never got any sleep constantly wondering what was happening. The next day came, and it was worst. I went to the mirror and noticed that those 2 dots on the white part of my eye had connected and joined together and now the blood clot is around the black part of my eye. When I put my hand over my left eye, I can see out of the right, but not good. I was miserable and went to emergency that night. My daughter went with me but she kept telling me that this was something that I had to wait out. She knew what I was going through, but I needed to talk to a doctor. After being checked the doctor, doing several test, she said that my eye was normal and that it was something that I had to wait out. This takes about 7 days. Oh boy……….
Here it is Monday, and I’m so glad that its going away. The clots on the white part of my eye balls are gone, but not the eye ball. The point.. in sharing my story is… You see things totally different when your eye/body is going through something. I really realize that its so important to Thank God for your life. As I sat in peace and quiet talking to God… I thought about how my left eye totally took charge and helped the right eye out. When my eye was “shishing” back and forth like hair was taking over my vision, my left eye had its back. The bible says that two are better than one. When one goes out, whether its your feet, leg, arm, ears, the other will pick the slack.Â
Ecclesiastes 4:9-12New International Version (NIV)
9Â Two are better than one,
    because they have a good return for their labor:
10Â If either of them falls down,
    one can help the other up.










